Hello Class:
For this weeks discussion, we will consider the follwoing:
The west, including the US, Europe and other western nations are democratic and allow people the right to freedoms that we cherish. Our morals and values have helped to shape a culture that is fruitful for our children and for future generations.
Globalization is innevitable and as such, it will affect our rights and freedoms if other cultures with different values and morals are allowed to perpetrate undue influence on our society.
Would you be willing to go to war to protect our society from that influence?
Should you place conditions on those who lose?
Would you allow the citizens of those countries to become a part of our country if they conform?
Thank you
Dr. Kalam
Saturday, January 31, 2009
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I'm willing to go to war to defend my country, I was not born here, but I consider ths U.S. my country because it allowed me to make my dreams come true and be able to create new ones.
ReplyDeleteI'm willing to go to war not only to protect our society but also to allow others to have the same opportunities I've enjoyed.
I think conditions should be placed in order to prevent further actions of the same kind. It will also send a clear message regarding how we value and protect our society and our values.
Citizens from such country wanting to conform with our values, and way of living should be able to "enjoy" the same values. conditions must exist in order for them to be able to do so, I believe we need to make sure they are not saying they'll conform just to say it; when in reality they might be wanting to continue with the same ideas that started the war to beging with.
A. Baena,
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you. Defend our country with military power...absolutely, only if our safety, sovereignty and freedom are being violated or threaten. But to go to war just because to protect our society from influences of other cultures...it sounds too radical. If we are willing to go to war due to ideology, we are being as barbaric as the Middle Eastern nations. I do not agree with their customs and values, and I really do not think that they will be able to influence us to the point that we will loose our own values. However, if we are being influence by other customs, don’t our Bill Rights allow us to be free without any type of government oppression? If the influences are not violating any civil rights and laws why should go to war to avoid them?
Flavio,
ReplyDeletewhen our values start been influnced is not just our values is our way of life, our freedrom is what is on the line.. I don't mean we are going to be enslave, but our way of life and the rights we enjoy so much will be at jeoperdy. if we do not protect our society we run the risk of loosing our freedom as we know it.
I think it should the other way around. Other societies should put up a fight to resist the onslaught of "Americanism". On this aspect we are the unscrupulous assailant wanting everyone to conform to our ideologies. -- Can you picture an American woman in a Burka? -- That's when I will take up arms and start fighting because our way of life has been tampered with.
ReplyDeleteWith globalization boundaries are almost non existent; nations are closer than ever the exchanges that occur continue to bring people close to universality. One has to travel far in the remote jungles of Africa or South America to find people leaving in a primitive state - unaffected by gobalization. The relationship between territories and distinctive local cultures is fundamental to globalization. We -The USA- are a "Goliath" and I applaud all the "Davids" in this country who either in defiance or as a mean to preserve their patrimony, choose to wear their national garb, eat their traditional meal etc...
ReplyDeleteI do not think that going to war because our society is influenced by immigrants with different cultures is an option. If indeed, our society reaches a point in which the majority of its society is different from my points of view, then I have the choice of staying here and accepting the majority's point of view or I can leave the country and go somewhere else where I would feel more confortable.
ReplyDeleteWith respect to placing conditions on those who lose, since I do not agree that we need to fight if we receive new people with different ideas. As long as these new ideas become the majority I believe that people in our country have to accept the majority's point of view. The only time that I would place conditions on those who lose would be if our country is under attack by people that want to change our way of life by means of force.
Again, I do not have a problem with allowing people of different countries to become a part of our society, as long as they conform to our laws.
I meant to put a comma after the word "ideas" (just before the word "As")
ReplyDeleteI agree with Rudy with respect to the idea that our country is great because everyone of its members has the right to express themselves. They do not have to conform to one type of culture. As long as they obey the law, then everything else is a personal choice. For example, you can eat what you want, worship who you believe in or not worship anyone, and dress however you feel confortable (I guess you start having a problem if start making it a daily practice to go outside nude)
ReplyDeleteWith respect to A. Baena I do not think the U.S. should have the policy of policing what or how its society should think. What makes our country a wonderful place to live in is the fact that it is composed of many different cultures brought together under one country and one set of rules. As long as everyone understands that the rules must be adhered to by everyone, then I do not belive in restricting people of different cultures the entry to our country.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Flavio with respect to the concept that going to war only to protect our society from the influence of other cultures is wrong. It reminds me of the Spanish Inquisition in which everyone that did not conform to their beliefs was tortured and/or killed.
ReplyDeleteI do not see the connection between globalization affecting our rights and freedoms and its influence in our morals and values. With globalization, we are already perpetrating undue influence in most of the world societies. Therefore, nothing more democratic, according to our moral and values, to allow other cultures influence ours. In my opinion, that would not jeopardize our rights and freedoms, unless any of the cultures decide to go to war with us to force their ideology on us. Thus, we should not go to war just to prevent other cultures to influence the moral and values of our society.
ReplyDeleteAgain, according to our moral and values, we should respect the culture of other countries including those who lose. We should not place conditions that would force them to adopt our moral and values. That is one of the worst experiments of colonialism and it is historically proven that usually fails.
Conformity implies accepting something against will. I do not think that we should grant the right to be part of our society to anyone that does not accept and embrace our rights and freedom unless they really understand what they meant.
I am sorry, but I would not wiiling to go to war (not myself personally) just to prevent globalization, that is ridiculous. We are a diverse nation, different morals and values contribute to the sustainable and equitable of our american nation (society)don't misunderstand me, I love my country dearly, but globalization is what cultivates this country.
ReplyDeleteResponse to questions:
ReplyDelete1. Yes I would be willing to protect my society for outside influence because I am an American, and I believe in our principles, and morals. I feel that one should want to protect our society because we know what we have, and we should let country try to influence our society. If do let any outside influences take control our society, do we really love our country, and what it stay for, or are we just here just what out a care in world willing confirm to other peoples morals and values.
2. Yes I would go to war, this is my country be it good or bad, just because I have the freedoms and rights to thinks what ever I want. Once you are not able to express your thoughts, there is a problem, because everyone does not have the same values on things, but because these differences we get to do great things when everyone puts of there part, we wouldn't have our first Black/African American President if it wasn't for that same unity. As globalization I feel that if we are the leaders of the free world, we should be the ones influencing other countries, not the other way around.
3. Yes I would place conditions on those that lose so that we wouldnt have to go to war over the same issue again. It is good to have conditions set because that help us known when the other party over steps its boundries, and helps us as well to kept our guard up to wrong doings.
I agree with Farah, we should only go to war when our Nation is threatened. Globalization is a reality and as a society we have to adapt to it. As such, we have to re-evaluate not only our immigration procedures, but also what we produce as a Nation. Sadly, we are reaching a point in our history in which we only have our military force and armament production as one of our main strengths and as one of our few production industries.
ReplyDeleteI agree totally agree with Farah in refusing to wage war in order prevent globalization. The Constitution is the back bone of our country and it provides us with the freedom to choose our affiliation without fear of persecution. To impose our morale and values to other subjugated nations would be a clear violation of our constitution.
ReplyDeleteresponse to questions:
ReplyDelete4. Yee I would allow citizens of other countrys to because part our society if they confirm, because if they are willing to become part of our change they way of thinking why not. I really have a problem with people that come here and from the minute they are here they just complaint, so why have some like that here. Like my favorite saying: When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
In reference to Carlos Rivera, I understand that it is nicer to influence others, but the reality of globalization is that everyone is influenced by others, whether they like it or not; that is one of the characteristics of globalization. We know what happens when as a Nation we decide to alienate ourselves from the rest of the world, only doing what we want; we just simply alienate ourselves a little bit everyday and when there comes the day when we need help from other countries then we do not have it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with flavio and Alan. People should discipline theirselves and some restrictions in the way they behave and act so they can experience and enjoy a freedom that is meaningful.We should consider others opinion, their beliefs are always their choice. People should be open to new ideas, experiences and emotions. However they shouldn't be pressured to change their morals and values.
ReplyDeleteTrying to instill our morals and values into others,(I consider that, a form of coercive),We are coercing other people.
trying to conform others to our values morals,contradicts the 1st amendment, because the the 1st amendment grants us freedom of speech, religion, press,and expression just to name a few, which prohibits government from establishing religion,I think religion plays a great role in ones morals and values, (morals and values derives from religion, besides culture.
Everyone is entitle to freedom of conscience and from coercing beliefs, just because other cultures differ in some moral and value practices, doen't make them wrong or right.
I agree with Flavio. Rights and freedoms relate to sovereignty and, morals and values to culture. Even within our society we have different “morals and values” depending on whom we are talking to. We could see that during the last presidential campaign - Palin’s morals and values or Obama’s? Defining morals and values of a nation, especially now with globalization, is ridiculous. So, for what are we going to fight for? Your “morals and values” or mine?
ReplyDeleteAlan:
ReplyDeleteI like your perspective about how to conform to the majority. If indeed we believe in democracy, we can accept your view.
Reponse to A Baena:
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, we should want to go war for the principles that we believe in. I was born here in the United States, and really dont know and don't want to find out how it is not to be able to speak you mind.
Flavio:
ReplyDeleteYour comments are well taken in respect to our freedom to choose. Fighting for ideals, and trying to force others to comply with acts of terror or other tactics demands some action. If it is "War" then that is what is needed. We can decide what War to conduct.
I disagree with you. Defend our country with military power...absolutely, only if our safety, sovereignty and freedom are being violated or threaten. But to go to war just because to protect our society from influences of other cultures...it sounds too radical. If we are willing to go to war due to ideology, we are being as barbaric as the Middle Eastern nations. I do not agree with their customs and values, and I really do not think that they will be able to influence us to the point that we will loose our own values. However, if we are being influence by other customs, don’t our Bill Rights allow us to be free without any type of government oppression? If the influences are not violating any civil rights and laws why should go to war to avoid them?
Alan:
ReplyDeleteGood perspective and explanation about your view. I would never want to be forced into acting a certain way or doing certain things that I really think are against my values or morals.
Teresa:
ReplyDeleteWhen you say "In my opinion, that would not jeopardize our rights and freedoms, unless any of the cultures decide to go to war with us to force their ideology on us. Thus, we should not go to war just to prevent other cultures to influence the moral and values of our society". I think some religious zealots have declared a war and are attacking us NOW. The issues may be, how do we continue to fight this threat in a global sense?
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Carlos:
ReplyDeleteWe have come a long way and I think we need to change our perspectives to meet the challenges of a global community. That is not to say we must give up our values or morals, but we should always be willing to change our views. Paradigms sometimes lead us to do the same things and think the same way....and that may can lead to bad decisions when many other perspectives are present.
Response to Mr. Allan Raffo:
ReplyDeleteEven though I respect your right to your view on globalization. I firming believe if our country is suppose to stay something, and that something is freedom we should be the leaders in influncing the would not the other way around. Once we give in to anything we are going to fall for everything. and we wouldn't be able to say a thing about it. My mean reason for loving my country is because I have the right to use my thoughts and express my feeling about things. Yes we do need help from other countries like other countires need us.
Farah:
ReplyDeleteGood example in terms of the freedom to speak and practice our religious beliefs. We should treasure those reights and protect them. I think people from anywhere in the world would like to have a voice and the freedom to express themselves. Others who value political and religious, and economic aspirations over human rights for example, are the ones who we must "fight" against.
Dr. Kalam:
ReplyDeleteI feel that globalization is form to get everyone to think the same way, and they are using the excuse the it is the better of would. We should want to change and change for the better aways but on our terms, and yes do make bad decisions, but have we not learned from them, to error is human.
Dr. Kalam:
ReplyDeleteThe religious zealots and their followers that are attacking us do not constitute a country that we can go to war against. That is why the slogan “war on terrorism” is loosing its ground. The way I think we can fight this is by trying to influence people in those parts of the world to reject that type of ideology. The best way to do that is to offer them a better alternative than the one offered by the sponsors of terrorism. Through diplomacy and our good deeds in the region, we might be able to win their hearts and minds and defeat them.
Dr. Kalam:
ReplyDeleteWhen it comes to fighting against those who value political and economical aspirations over human rights, we even have a conflict in the U.S.; many politicians fall prey or allow themselves to fall to the powers of lobyists. As a result, many of these politicians really have the agenda of these corporations and power groups as their priority and consequently allow human rights and the voice of the people of the U.S. to be placed aside or at least they are not in their priority list.
Carlos:
ReplyDeleteI do think that globalization should be viewed as something that is enevitable; it is happening and we should understand that. When things begin to change, we should evaluate them in light of our values and morals. We don't need to feel pressured, rather, feel exited to learn from others, for example.
Teresa:
ReplyDeleteThose are very noble and worthy thoughts. And yes, there is a move (rightly so) to begin to dialogue with those who may be "brainwashed' into thinking we are teh bad guys. President Obama should be supported in all his efforts, especially since he is apparently so well recieved around the world.
To Class:
ReplyDeleteWe should have a right to view on globalization. My view on it is that if we are going to be part of globalization we should be the leader of it, because was are suppose to be the example of freedom. I am in no way saying we are perfect because we are not, it is just my view. I am very open minded person, today I may think this way, and tomorrow i can see it in a different light, just because I have the right to my opinion. I respect everyones opinion on things, but I do not let other influence the way i think.
Carlos:
ReplyDeleteYour comments about us being leaders of the free world do not give us the power to influence other cultures just to us. That line of thought is one of the things that make international community to view us and our culture as “arrogant”.
Alan:
ReplyDeletePoliticians are also prone to self interest--ding what is right as long as it benefits them. The governor of Illinois is a prime example of this. This is not uncommon, but I want to think, and I am hopefull that there is more good than bad and that with the right leadership, human rights and more focus on people can prevail and as priorities in this global melting pot.
Response to Teresa:
ReplyDeleteI agree with you we should continue to try to in influence those people of other feel the need to attack. The only thing is that I don't think that they seem to understanding, and they that are in the right. We may be at with terrorism for ever
Carlos:
ReplyDeleteI hope we are not....I do think that we are going to be at ods with others for a long time to come. I guess we must find ways to deal with that.
Response to Teresa
ReplyDeleteIf we are not the leaders of the free world than what are we, when everyone from the other countries want to come here. I we should not influence other cultures, we should try to help them become better, not let them influence our society. Then I must admit that to the international community my line thought is "arrogant", and will it stay like that, because don't think I am only one in the United States that has the same view.
Dr Kalam:
ReplyDeleteI think that we started a world based on interested aboard that now has turned into what we have now, enemies that are unknown, and war that has no end.
As a nation we pride oursleves in promoting an promulgating democracy to others. Right under our nose, whe have Cuba, a clear example of defiance. All our efforts to bring democracy to this island nation have failed thus far. We isolated Cuba with an never ending embargo, we bombard their airwaves with democratic propaganda, we take in their refugees in hordes an placed strick control on travels and remitances yet they endure in they way of life.
ReplyDeleteOf course we would like to see and end to human rights violations, does it give us the right to wage war on Cuba?
1. Would I be willing to go to war to protect our society from that influence?
ReplyDeleteI have mixed feeling about this question...Part of me says yes, I will go to war to protect mu country, because I am a proud US Citizen and after all you are talking about our moral and value which goes a long ways. On the other hand I do not like war of any such to many innocent people get hurt. By the way Globalization has been the proliferation of international political, econimic and cultural linkages; I just don't see it that happening. Globalization is to breaks down barriers dividing nations and people. We need to read our constitution again and remember why we have it place.
2. Should I place condition on those who lose? If, it gets to that level of war; yes, I will place conditions. Conditions should be placed on everything in life for order and control. We must understand once respect is lost it is hard to regain/or get it back.
3. Would I allow the citizens of those countries to become a part of our country if they confirm?
Yes, everyone deserve a second chance but with all respect they must be monitored just in case of deviation from our conditions in place.
The term “Globalization” per Wikipedia:
ReplyDelete“Globalization (globalisation) in its literal sense is the process of transformation of local or regional phenomena into global ones. It can be described as a process by which the people of the world are unified into a single society and function together.”
The magic word: “unify”, that doesn’t mean that American Society should take control of the world, it means that we also have to accept other cultures’ influence as well, and be able to function together. I think many classmates are confusing the term “Globalization” with “Americanization”.
I dont see how globalization or other cultures with different morals and values affect our rights and freedom. I just don't see the relation.
ReplyDeleteI can understand that globalization, different values and morals bring change to our country, but change is an important part of our everyday life.
I've given the question, as well as A. Baena's response some thought over and over again, and the only way I can think of this having some affect on us is that, these same individuals with different views, morals and values from the American system are the same ones that are seeking and preparing themselves for political, social and economic enhancements, which brings change and may scarce resources.
I think if one posses the positive morals and values such as honesty, law abiding, deligence, self discipline and fairness, then therefore that individual is an important contributor to our society.
Lisa:
ReplyDeleteCommenting your third answer: Are you suggesting that we put every immigrant to this country on probation? That goes against the most fundamental principles of human rights and freedom that we cherish in our country.
Response to Flavia
ReplyDeleteI agree with you "depending our country with military" for safety, sovereignty and freedon are being violated or threaten in anyway.
Response to Farah
I totally agree with your thoughts they were right on point. Because globalization is exactly what cultivates this country.
Response to Baena
I see where you are going with your responses and I join you. Not everybody can be trusted, somewhere in the back of their minds "the idea that started the war in the beginning will be waiting to exit again." That's why I stated we must monitor their actions and activities daily.
Response to Teresa
ReplyDeleteNot exactly, but they do need to be closely watched. Some people play on their prey...waiting for the opportunity to attack again.
I'm just stating don't be so quick to open doors and trust freely.
to Flavio
ReplyDeleteAmericans are regarded as the "police" of the world. We tend to impact and influence every surfacing global issues. We are considered arrogant - justifiably so- and we live up to that expectation.
Rudy:
ReplyDeleteWe have not waged war on Cuba, and as we discussed yesterday, is it becuase of lack of threat, or some other motivation?
Flavio:
ReplyDeleteExcellent point here about globalization and Americanization.
What does the rest of the class think about the Americanization......as opposed to globaliztion.
Rudy:
ReplyDeleteAre we regarded as the "police"...or something else?
Farah:
ReplyDeletesome cultures have values and morals that do not allow people (Women for example) to speak out and be part of society. That seems contrary to what we have as part of our freedoms. What do you think?
I’m willing to go to war to protect our society’s viewpoints because I have grown up living with the viewpoints and match what I believe in. What America has done to become a stable nation works and its proven because they are not the only nation to have these viewpoints. I personally would not place any conditions that force a county to adapt to our society’s views I would try to suggest them to convert though ultimately its up to the people to convert. If their people want to conform with our society’s views I would welcome them with open arms as long as they follow the right process to enter our country.
ReplyDeleteDr Kalam:
ReplyDelete"Police" is a rather politically motivated choice of word. We are considered a big bully who does not respond to any authority.
Cuba is no threat to us but still represents a thorn in our side, a slap to our arrogance. How would democracy in Cuba benefit the US. How would the end of the embargo benefit our global economy?
Dr. Kalam:
ReplyDeleteCouldn’t agree more with Flavio. We should not impose our views on others if we do not want others to impose on us. The whole idea of globalization is to work together to achieve a better world integration.
Rudy and Teresa:
ReplyDeleteYou both hit on excellent points. Cuba may be a thorn and somewhat of a slap in the face. Why could we not make headway with regard to fighting the communist threat that was Cuba.
Globaliztion is a natural phenomenon and as such, lead us to a point where the only solution is to work together. But as we know, that is the challenge of the ages.....people will struggle with this until they reach some level of comfort.
Just like India and China are gaining their share of the global market, we are no less influenced by Chinese or Indian culture. Chinese goods are flooding our market and don't seem to get enough of India. Thanks to the Internet, the transfer or information and knowledge is almost instantaneous. Should we view these trends as a threat?
ReplyDeleteRudy:
ReplyDeleteOnly if they are a treat to our freedom, morals and values.
So far, I see that some issues have arisen out of the India and China cultures. India has threatened our jobs through outsourcing of certain types of services. Should we fight that? China has a trade advantage and has used some loose regulatory practices that have caused problems in terms of threatening the health of American citizens...lead in toys, toxic ingredients in dog food.
All in all, these are not really threats as much as cultural shifts that we should work to resolve.
Dr Kalam,
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, here in America , every culture, and individual is entitle to their own beliefs, morals, values and etc. according to the 1st amendment. However we can not force them to become Americanize and live by our values and morals, but they do have the choice to do so.
"America is the land of freedom and opportunity", take it or leave it.
Perhaps some cultures don't want to loose their roots and forget where they come from and who they are, I don't konow,but I dont see how could some live in such manner. If one dont want to be free and exercise their freedom, and wants to be enslave, then maybe here is not the perfect place for them. I thought foreigners immigrate here because they're looking for a better quality of life, which includes freedom, education and so forth.
Every individual here, on the American soil has rights, the amendments and the constitution guarantees us those rights.Rights is humanly.
We can't force others to become Americanize.
"I am proud to be an American,.... where at least I know I'm free"
What type of influence is in question? There are a number of ways to influence a nation. If the influence that is imposed is one of dialogue regarding others cultures, religions, political views and different perspectives there is no need to go to war. People with different values and morals already live within our borders. They are allowed to exercise their moral point of views. This practice should extend beyond our borders. But if any aggressive attempt to impose influence upon the U.S. is perpetrated it will call for war.
ReplyDeleteYes, just as we as American citizens value our beliefs and morals I do believe that we should go to war if needed to protect our society’s values and morals. What good is it to have values, morals, and beliefs if you are not willing to stand up for what you believe in. Over 500,000 Americans died in the Civil War, I’m sure that every single one of those same Americans was willing to die to support their belief too.
ReplyDeleteOne of the greatest benefits here and America which comes in very is being able to relate and communicate with all types of people. It's beneficial in all aspects of life, so I believe globaliation will help us to deal with a wide range of people.
ReplyDeleteBecause nearly everyday of our lives involves interacting with others from different cultures, with diferrent morals and values, I think nit is worth while we tap into the diverse knowledge that others possess cause a great deal of what we learn and know comes from a shared knowledge.
After all globaliazation creates a vast majority of employment, which creates growth and improves our environment although I don't think globalization imply intergration of culture.
Class, I have to go now. I'm at work, It's count time. Join you guy in half an hour. Bye.
Question 2
ReplyDeleteThat question is hard to answer. If my country won the war, then of course I would support placing conditions on the opposing nation. On the other hand, if my country happened to be the nation that lost the war, I would hate the thought of having conditions on defeat. By being the defeated country I would feel that any condition that is set would only benefit the victorious nation and leave my nation if a slight state of fear.
Would you be willing to go to war to protect our society from that influence?
ReplyDeleteI think that in a very realistic sense we already do accept cultural influences from other countries. We as society have a general set of moral and ethical guidelines, called laws that originated as a part of someone else’s culture or influence. A couple of examples of this influence are British Commom Law and the Code of Hammurabi. Both of which have shaped laws that we currently have but we can not say that there will never be other ideas out there that we would be willing to consider. However, if those ideas threaten our freedom or would ignore the ideals and traditions that were created right here in our own country then we may have to consider war. In protection and defense of those people and things that we love, war is always an option but only when diplomacy is no longer a viable option or in self-defense.
Should you place conditions on those who lose?
I think that if war was the only option you have to set conditions on them for your own safety. If you were the loser conditions would most certainly be placed on you. How harsh the conditions would depend on how the two sides felt about each other afterwards. The idea that conditions are not placed on countries that get the short end of the stick in war is naïve at best.
Would you allow the citizens of those countries to become a part of our country if they conform?
We already let anyone in who is willing to conform and abide by the rules and morals that we have in this country. They just have to follow the proper channels and procedures to enter the country legally. To live in this country you must conform and the same is true of living in other countries. You are saying that you are willing to accept their form of society and therefore are being accepted by that society.
Question 3
ReplyDeleteIt all depends; some people can pretend to be someone that they are not. I support the fact of becoming a citizen of the United States the legal way. Once you have done that process then you can become a citizen, regardless of your belief. Many people have beliefs that are different; however, a person’s actions actually make them a bad or good person.
Dr. Kalam,
ReplyDeleteThe issues brought up with China and India are a question of being competitive in the era of globalization. The U.S. has stumbled in taking the next step into shifting job markets. The issues of the future are already evident. Population growth will stress the planet. Highly technical jobs will be the wave of the future and we must address this now. China and India's rise are peaceful examples of influences that can seriously affect a society. It is very difficult to go to war with someone that is just out hustling you without looking like the aggressor. This will go against the whole foundation of the U.S. Constitution.
Aldo...
ReplyDeleteI could not agree with you more. China and India, as much as Americans may get tired of the "Made in China" labels or speaking to a customer service representative in India, are just ahead of the curve when it comes to the 21st century business model. They are nations, during our nation's boom times, that were considered backwards or Third World countries. Now they are strong with a population that is highly educated but still works for a lower wage. We are always looking for better and cheaper, now that is being found overseas. It was only a matter of time. We just need to rethink how we do business and adapt. It happened in the 20th Century and it will continue to happen. We, as a nation, must adapt to the changing world and we can move to the forefront once again.
2. Should you put condition on those who lose?
ReplyDeleteYes, if you don't put conditions you run a higher risk of fighting again. The conditions will serve as a guideline for the loosers to avoid repeating history.
Alicia...
ReplyDeleteYou are right and I agree that as long as a person enters the country legally that is the main thing. We may not share all of the same beliefs but I do think that one of the few shared beliefs that they must have is to defend this country and the freedom that allows us to have different beliefs. It is that freedom, to disagree, that we must keep safe. I think that in some way that was the problem with the outgoing president. Especially at the end, it seemed as though if a person disagreed with certain views that person was "un-American." It is that type of thinking that is really un-American and that is a big part of what we must protect.
To All:
ReplyDeleteSigning off. Enjoy the game!
Flavio,
ReplyDeleteLook up the definition to perpetrate. It was stated in the question. Influence can be exerted in a peaceful or aggressive manner. This is where the term "realism" comes into play. Every country is jocking to have there influence as the most dominant one on the planet wheter we like it or not.
1)I'm willing to go to war to protect America unter certain conditions, God forbidden if we been attack by another country that will be a good reason for me to go to war.
ReplyDelete2)Yes we should place conditions on them, why? I have a feling when somebody loose something they become furious it's like they have a personel prolem with you and it will also prevent them to act in a bad way or prevent further action like that to happen to them or other people.
3)Everybody deserve something good one in a life time. Every day we meet we different cultures and different background in here.So we should allow them to become a part of our country not only if they conferm but they have also respect in obey our "LAWS".We also have to respect them too because not everybody will adapt in this country so fast. we have to undertand they have their own way of thinking and see thing.
3. Would you allow the citizens of those countries to become a part of our country if they conform?
ReplyDeleteYes. Eventually we should allow the citizens of those countries to become a part of our country if they conform. It shows goodwill. The problem lies in their aggressive tactics not their values or morals.
Farah,
ReplyDeleteYou said :
"After all globaliazation creates a vast majority of employment, which creates growth and improves our environment although I don't think globalization imply intergration of culture."
I definitely agree with you about the first part but I am not so sure that I agree with the other half. I think globalization for Americans has always meant that. We began as a melting pot of people from different cultures. As we interact more with places that we overlooked before we begin to learn more about them and incorporate elements that we identify with into our culture.
I am a U.S citizen I love my country and our freedom, but I’m only willing to go to war if we are threatened. It is preposterous to go to war over value beliefs and morals. We are the United stated because of our morals and values. If we are not endangered then I am not willing to take part in the war.
ReplyDeleteThe other country should have some decent conditions placed on them if our country is under attack. To keep our country safe we should have our country some where in their country to protect our safety. They should not have to abide by our morals and values.
I also agree with Carlos I dislike citizens from other countries that come to the U.S and complain. If they are willing to accept our morals and values then why not accept them. We let anyone in the U.S so why not let them in as long as they don’t oppose any threat to the U.S.
Absolutely not. What kind of war are we talking about? I hope is a war over idealogy. I belive in modernization, but I don't believe in imposing our believes upon anyone against their free will. We should not fight any country if we allowed other cultures with different values and morals to perpetrate undue influence on our society.If that would happened,it wouldn't be anybody's fault, but our own. We need to start a different war to educate our youths that feel neglected and under appreciated. Because of the lack of attention given to that particular class, these young people have become vulnerable to the influence of other cultures.
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Question #1
ReplyDeleteI would most definetely be willing to go to war to protect any of our freedoms. Of course as a measure of last resort. The reason we are the greatest and most powerful free country in the world was by war. Unfortanetely thats the way of the world. Since the begining of time people, animals and and all species have been fighting for land, power and freedom. No country should impose on us like that. Our country should be an example for the rest of the world but not try to police the world. So as many people have said i must agree FREEDOM IS NOT FREE AT ALL.
I agree with Carlos and I'm respect your opinion about globalization everybody should have a right to view it.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with you in your comment, when you said you have a problem with people that come in here and from the minute they are here they just complaint. Should i say they have a problrm of expectation, must of the people who come in America because the can live in their country just for a reson that might be Politic, religion or econimic. If we take the economic side for example,not everybody think will be hard for them to find a job or event pay bills every month.they think coming to american will solve all the problems they have, but the don't think about any obstacles that will challenge their life.
"WECOME TO AMREICA"
The beauty of this great country is that it allows everyone to “be” as they please as long as they are within the boundaries of the laws set forth. I cannot foresee any outside culture being strong enough to influence a change in American society. Besides, in the U.S. groups of people have even set up neighborhoods where their culture dominates (ex. Chinatown, Little Italy, Little Haiti, Little Havana.)
ReplyDeleteThe only way I am willing to go to war is if there is a country trying to destroy the American way of life by terror or by a direct attack on our land.
I have no problem accepting people from any country willing to conform to United States laws and norms.
Hi Dr. Kalam,
ReplyDeleteI'm Sgt.Montgomery here at the facility where Sgt.Louissaint is employed. I've been observing our Sgt. complete her class assignment, and I just so find the questions asked to be challenging and interesting. I would like to know do you think different morals and values, and globilization affects the american system in the sense of rise of crime, racial conflict, drug abuse and sexual promiscuity?
I do agree with Alan, Farah,and Flavio. I don't see how congress could make that arguement to go war because other nations have influenecd our cultures. I don,t believe other have influenced as we have open up to accept other cultures.I think we are more unified, bacuse we have become so open minded about other cultures especialy here in south florida.
ReplyDeleteI definently agree with Flavio, i think all American will like to defend their country against any country that try to violated our right. we all want to be safe and believe in our freedom of speech, religion etc.
ReplyDeleteLuis I agree with you with respect to the outgoing president. (What happpened did you forget his name already?) His government created a sense of "being an American", if you were in favor of their positions, and a sense of "being a bad American, or unpatriotic" if you said anything against the goverment's decisions, especially when it came to the War in Iraq. I believe that only toward the end of his term, when the weapons of mass destruction were not found and when the country realized the mess we were in, is that the people of the U.S. were not afraid to speak against him.
ReplyDeleteIn addition to what Luis said, I believe that control of the media was handled perfectly after September 11th. This allowed our government to attack Iraq without oposition from the majority of our population and Legislative Branch.
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ReplyDeleteI believe conditions should be placed and made an example of. We must show that we are very serious and dedicated to maintaining our status. Those conditions should include deporatation because if you want to live in our house you gotta play by our rules. If you dont like it get out.
Rudy
ReplyDeleteI disagree with your comment on question #1. That is what makes us so great our influence we have on the world. Other countries also realize that we are so powerful and could learn plenty from us but we dont impose.
Alan,
ReplyDeleteYou are absolutely correct that the Bush administration used the media perfectly to blind Americans to the truth or at least the absence of hard facts and evidence about Iraq. Without that I think we wouldn't have been so quick to go to war. We also probably would have maintained a better standing around the world.
I don't think Cuba can do anything to us now years ago yes. We probably don't go to Cuba because they not threaten us or they not represent any threat for our nation, they not represnt any denger to our freedom, marals and values. Another reason might be because we have something in our interest.I heard some rumor that said we are scare to attack Cuba for that reason:If we establish democracy in Cuba all the Cuban might go home and it will affect our economie.
ReplyDelete#3 Would you allow the citizens of those countries to become a part of our country if they conform?
ReplyDeleteIf they are here legally and are entirely willing to conform I would allow some to stay. Although one can not allow all to stay because their would certainly be alot of cases of immigrants just agreeing just for sake of being allowed to stay. In order to regulate that I believe only a certain amount of these cases should be allowed annually.
Farah:
ReplyDeleteYou say, "Unfortunately, here in America , every culture, and individual is entitle to their own beliefs, morals, values and etc. according to the 1st amendment. However we can not force them to become Americanize and live by our values and morals, but they do have the choice to do so".
I tend to think that that is what makes our country such a great one; the freedoms are here for everyone. I can agree that beliefs of other people here should not be forced on anyone.
Sgt. Montgomery:
ReplyDeleteGlobalization has many implications. I would be hesitant to guess that all of those things you mention have a correlation to different moralsl and values of people comming here. I would tend to believe that as we evolve and become more diverse, we can see effects of cultural differences on things such as community development, education, and social changes. When we study criminology, we know that those same things all have an influence on crime in the US. I guess what i am saying is that globalization and people comming here do not cause crime spikes. Rather, the integration of cultures, values and beliefs create new challenges.
Hi Dr. Kalam,
I'm Sgt.Montgomery here at the facility where Sgt.Louissaint is employed. I've been observing our Sgt. complete her class assignment, and I
just so find the questions asked to be challenging and interesting. I would like to know do you think different morals and values, and globilization affects the american system in the sense of rise of crime, racial conflict, drug abuse and sexual promiscuity?
Aldo:
ReplyDeleteI like how you explain the issue of China and India and how they are "attacking us" in a way that we can clearly see, yet it is totally non-agressive. It is goind against soem of our values and morals though. think about cheap labor for example?
The issues brought up with China and India are a question of being competitive in the era of globalization. The U.S. has stumbled in taking the next step into shifting job markets. The issues of the future are already evident. Population growth will stress the planet. Highly technical jobs will be the wave of the future and we must address this now. China and India's rise are peaceful examples of influences that can seriously affect a society. It is very difficult to go to war with someone that is just out hustling you without looking like the aggressor. This will go against the whole foundation of the U.S. Constitution.
Aldo,
ReplyDeleteDuring this era, economical success is more important than land expansion. This is how nations want to dominate the world today. We are very ahead of the game...yet. Our economy is better than many nations and our advancement of technology which includes military weapons and cybernetics is top of the line. The last (cybernetics) being extremely important because the control of information; a perfect example to control the world in a peaceful and globalized manner. I agreed in the invasion of countries in order to protect our safety and freedom, not for economical reasons. Unfortunately, it is hard to know the real reason why powerful nations go to war nowadays. There are always hidden agendas and speculations that blur the real reason.
Something that I am sure is if we invaded Iraq for the control of oil, after all the money we spent in the war, with that money we would have been able to resolve the problem of oil dependency in the US.
1. I partially agree with Flavio and I partially agree with A. Baena. Going to war to protect our country for our safety then hey I'm all in. Yet going to war to protect our country from other countries and their cultures are absurd and just ignorant. Yet, I love my country and I'm willing to do what I have to do to protect it.
ReplyDelete2. If I were to go into a war though I would place conditions on those who lose, IF it gets to that level of war. As Lisa said once our respect is gone, it's very difficult to gain it back and we fail to realize that as a country. Notice I said as a country.
3. I would let them become apart of out country. Simply because eveyone deserves a second chance.
Aldo
ReplyDeleteI agree on question #2. Those conditions are the only way to prevent us from fighting the same war twice. Also I believe that the guidelines will not only apply to the losers but all countries around the world. All countries will obviously be aware of the situation.
Good afternoon class! I have 102 degree fever so I am really exhausted.
ReplyDeleteIn response to question #1- yes, I would be able to go to war to protect our country. We have to reflect back on where we came from and how hard we had to fight to be the most powerful nation in the world.
In response to question #2- Yes, conditions should definetly be placed, because if there are none there is more of a risk of fighting all over again. Conditions are essential.
ReplyDeleteIn response to question #3- As long as they are willing to conform, then yes; but if there is any deviation from that, then they would need to go back to their country.
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First off hope you feel better.
I completely agree with you and I think everyone should but unfortanetely I am not sure people still feel that way, even americans. I am very thankful for all the sacrifices that have been made for us to live the way we do.
George- thank you; but unfortunately I am feeling worse :( It is sad that people forget where they come from, especially those of us who were born and raised here in this country. I think it is important that we all take time to reflect all the sacrifices that have been made.
ReplyDeletePrincess- in response to your post- When people come to this country they should be willing to accept the rules and laws of this country and if they cannot do that, then why should they be allowed to be here?
ReplyDeletegeorge in response to your #2 comment, I agree 100% you, if you dont like the rules and the laws get out of here. Our country is over populated as it is!
ReplyDeleteDr. Kalam,
ReplyDeleteIn regards to your comment to Aldo, about cheap labor in India and China, how many Americans do you think are willing to pay for American made products? We make it hard for ourselves to be able to afford our own products. I have recently been trying my hardest to purchase American made vehicles as it is something I feel every American should be doing to help out this economy, but, I did notice that you get a lot less for a $40K American vehicle that what you get when you purchase a Japanese or even European vehicle. We as Americans demand too much but are not willing to pay up!
Rudy
ReplyDeleteChina has been flooding the market with goods for a long time they bring cheap and quick labor. Another producer in the global market is Malaysia they product a lot of goods and technological parts as well. India holds a lot of answering services and food products. So I believe that China could and already is a threat to the United States they have been for a while, India could also pose a threat as well as any other country that we import a lot of their goods.
Lesly
ReplyDeleteAmerica's sovereignty is legitimate and when threats to that soverignty arise from other countries we respond to the situation. Also, the national education budget has been set at 827 billion since 2004, highest in the world.
I agree with Rachel on comment #1 if we do not fight to protect our land then others will perceive us as weak which could cause a domino effect of other countries and nations rising to challenge our position of power. We gained our freedom from Britain when they were weak and went through a lot of turmoil to get where we are.
ReplyDeleteSome of you perhaps will be surprised by this statement that I am a person who believes in pacifism and oppose to certain forms of violence. At the end of a war, most of us are left with some horrible feelings that usually settle nothing but a disastrous economic situation that will take many years to overcome and recover from. Make no mistake about it, I am very much a pacifist yet I am also a realist that knows when I am cornered as a cat how to defend myself accordingly. I understand very well that our culture, customs, values, and our way of life is what makes us the distinctive nation that we are. Once that identity is taken away from an organized group of people, we can’t call ourselves a sovereign nation any longer. Our freedom and liberty has to be protected and preserved at any cost. the roman empire has done in Europe and Africa and Hitler has also done it to France. This is non negotiable and it has to be considered as an act of aggression. Recently, some of us have learned that this kind of mentality will rarely achieve anything if not creating more chaotic circumstances. Making the decision to go to war with another nation must not be taken lightly or based on feeling or emotions.
ReplyDeleteWe have to utilize all other possible means that are available before we act upon such thought. War is a very serious matter that can only be entrusted to capable that will make sound judgments. “War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. We will not learn to live to live in peace by killing each other’s children”, said President Jimmy Carter.
ReplyDeleteWe need to realize that history is written so that we will learn not to repeat blunders that occurred in the past. For example, after World War 1 history has thought us that treaties and conditions had been put in place to prevent or deter Germany from aggressing neighboring nations yet these provisions were never enforced properly. As a result, Germany was able to become more powerful than it ever was before the First World War and brought about so much suffering and affliction to millions of souls. It is essential that the future of freedom and peace depend on the enforcement of these arrangements decided upon after each conflict. It makes all the different between stabilizing a region and for a long time and going back to the same location a decade or later. The enforcement of these set of rules is equally important as winning the conflict itself. When a nation loses a war or position of power, it becomes weaker and be at the mercy of the winning nation conditions must be put I place for what had happened not to repeat itself again.
ReplyDeleteThe United States of America has always been the most hospitable nation in the world and will remain such. People around the world want to live and work here for these reasons. We have always been an inclusive society that embraces others with their culture and customs. However; the rule of law that governs our society must be respected and adhered to. Our positive brand image in the world is based on these principles and cultural values. If they can adhere and act in accordance with the rule of our society, they should be given a chance to be part of this country .first of all, we must of our economic situation in order to address someone else matter.
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